142: Fellowship ft. Evan Ryan Ringler: A Conversation On Marriage And Facing Change Together
What is marriage all about, and how much should a ceremony cost? In this fellowship episode, Thane Marcus Ringler has none other than his wife, Evan Ryan Ringler. She is a powerhouse of a woman and is one of the most thoughtful, caring, and intentional individuals Thane has met in his life. Here, they discuss some of their views on weddings, their allotment, marriage, and facing change. They talked through how they have been coping with the changes amid the COVID-19 pandemic while simultaneously trying to get married. They also share some reminders that have been helpful for them in walking forward into the future unknowns together. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this fellowship episode with Thane and Evan.
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142: Fellowship ft. Evan Ryan Ringler: A Conversation On Marriage And Facing Change Together
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This is a fellowship episode with none other than Evan Ryan Ringler. Evan Ryan Ringler is my wife. She is one of the most thoughtful, caring, and intentional individuals I’ve ever met in my life, which is why I had to wife her up. In all seriousness, she is a powerhouse of a woman that I can’t wait for you all to get to know better. She grew up in Overland Park, Kansas, and quickly gravitated towards her natural athleticism, centering in on the sport of soccer. She competed for four years at the University of Arkansas on the soccer team there before graduating with a degree in International Relations. After graduating, she spent some time at Garmin and at Children’s Mercy working in several positions before deciding to move to Denver for a new adventure in the Rockies.God intended weddings to be life-giving and momentous celebrations. Click To Tweet
After almost two years as a Rocky Mountain regional manager for Life Equals, she’s now decided to venture into her own pursuits as a consultant and also pouring time into a few other passion projects that she set her vision and sights on as well. After getting married on March 19th of 2020, I have officially moved to Denver, Colorado and we have begun our life together here. If you’re in the Denver area, be sure to give us a holler because we love to connect. It has been a wild ride, but definitely the sweetest blessing from God. I can’t wait to see what the future holds.
In this episode, we discuss some of our views on weddings, our allotment, and what marriage is all about. We talked through how we’d been facing change in the midst of COVID while simultaneously trying to get married, an interesting endeavor indeed. We also share some reminders that have been helpful for us as we walk forward into the future unknowns together. It’s a dream come true for me having this episode and such a sweet time with my wife. I can’t wait for you to read this. Sit back, relax and enjoy this fellowship episode with none other than Evan Ryan Ringler.
Evan Ryan Ringler, welcome to The Up And Comers show.
Thanks for having me.
It’s a dream come true to have you here in Denver, Colorado in this beautiful apartment doing life. I thought it’d be fun to start off this little episode with a little get to know Evan Ryan Ringler. I thought it’d be fun to do a couple of questions. We’ll start and end with some one-offs. The first one is if you could safely eat any inedible object, what would it be? It’s an object you wouldn’t normally eat.
I love the smell of tobacco but I can’t eat that. I love the smell of Sun Bum sunscreen. It smells like coconut.
If you could say one sentence to your pet and know they understand it, what would you say?
He already knows this. My parents have a dog that my sister and I picked out named Cash.
Where did that name come from? I don’t know if I’ve heard the origin story of Cash?
We have Hank, the German shepherd, from Hank Williams. Johnny Cash is also one of my favorite artists. Cash for short. I would tell Cash that I love him and he knows that already. I’m obsessed.
We’ll just say Cash is a special dog. You can interpret that however, you like. I’m glad he does not live in our apartment. Here’s an easy one. Imagine you could devote a year to researching someone’s biography, who would your subject be?
You’ve asked me this on one of our first dates. We’ve asked a few of our friends and family members. I’ve loved all the answers. Max, my brother, said Jesus, which it’d be sweet. Who did I say? My original answer was Johnny Cash. He’d be one for sure.
If you had unlimited resources, what frivolous thing would you collect? What would you collect that doesn’t have any value or has a value, but it wouldn’t be of importance?
I feel that’s a hard question because we’ve been purging so much with you moving and with us being in a smaller space. I don’t collect. Maybe phrase it in a different way for me.
What would you enjoy?
It’s probably shoes. Some sweet tennis kicks, not running shoes.
I thought it’d be a lot of fun to talk about our marriage story, what led to it, what affected it, hence the state of affairs in our world, where we stand now, and how we are facing the challenges together in a new place. Maybe a good place to start could be a little bit about weddings and marriage itself. Maybe some of the backstory of how we approached it and came together on that.
Thane and I are working on eliminating the word “should” from our vocab because it has connotations of guilt or shame.
I want to touch on that quick because that’s such a helpful thing for all of us. Words have so much power. Words are generative so they create the future a lot of times. The words we use are so important because of that. A word like should is so commonly used. It’s programming our subconscious to be wired a certain way and that fuels guilt and shame. Guilt is feeling bad for something that you already did. Shame is feeling bad for something that you didn’t do. Should is a very shame-filled word. Oftentimes, it’s put on us from other people. We put it on ourselves. I did that all the time.
“I should workout. I shouldn’t eat this.” It’s been sweet even recognizing the small differences. I could work out now if I want to. It’s a different approach.
It creates a different mind space, heart space that is life-giving. I found it to be sweet, but I’ve also been humbled with how much I use it and how hard it is to get it out of the system. We shouldn’t be hard on ourselves. We’re going to potentially be doing a longer relationship story episode to talk about our journey, but we could give them a little cliff notes version.
We met in August 2019. We were also doing distance. I live in Denver, Colorado, and Thane lived in Los Angeles, California. We were navigating distance dating. We got engaged in December and decided on a March elopement.
It’s interesting navigating timelines. Everyone has different opinions on timelines. It’s interesting because everyone’s journey is unique to them. That’s something that we talked about a lot with other people and with ourselves in our own journey. Knowing that we are not responsible for what other people think our timeline should be or what we think our timeline should be based on other people’s timeline. It’s a very individual journey of what is right between us and God and where is He leading and why is He calling us to. I’ve had friends that had been on it faster, much longer and everywhere in between. It’s funny how much weight is often associated with a timeline when if we pause to reconsider, is it that important, and is that a helpful rubric? For us, it was unique because of where we were at in life and how aligned our life was when we met, which was a divine God thing that you can’t explain.
To quote the infamous Lance Palmer, my dad, he’s always said, “If you have 100 people in a room, there are 100 different opinions.” That’s so true. It’s a sweet tool to navigate life with, to know not everyone will agree with me and no one will have the same opinion as me because their journey isn’t my own. It’s been sweet to rest in that, in life in general, but also with us especially. Everyone has opinions.
I did 100% surprise her for the engagement. That’s the one thing that I am probably most proud of up to this date.
I had zero clues.
I probably had a bit of a receding hairline after that. There was a lot of stress trying to keep a secret for 2 to 3 weeks. That was extremely challenging. It was a daunting task.
It was the sweetest day.
We get to the part of discussing our marriage, what we want to do for that and what our ideas were coming into that. For me, I hadn’t seriously thought about what I did want or didn’t want in a wedding. I’ve been in probably eight weddings before then and been to a ton of weddings. It was always a blast for the dance, for the bachelor parties. I love those things, good food, good memories. In the back of my mind, there was that, but I was also finding myself in a place in life where most of my friends were in different places in the country. Expenses were always going to be an issue with that even for myself. There are many responsibilities on the plate that still seemed like a lot. I was open to whatever. We started talking about it.
I haven’t asked you this, did you assume your wedding would follow suit?
Yeah, I assumed it would follow suit. I didn’t have any other ideas. I didn’t have any notions of what I want it to be because culturally speaking, it is more determined by the female than the male. It’s paid for by the female side of the family. It’s decided more by the female side, etc. It’s much more driven by that. I always like, “Whatever my wife wants, I’m game for it. I don’t care.”
My perspective and experiences leading up to our wedding and my own wedding. I went to school at the University of Arkansas. I was in fifteen weddings the year I graduated. In Southern culture, that’s what happens not with everyone but a lot. I had a lot of experience being in weddings, being a part of weddings, going to weddings. They’re so fun, beautiful and the best celebrations. In their purest form, that’s what they are. God intended them to be celebrations, life-giving, and momentous. It’s important to mark milestones. Lanny taught us that.We put pressures on ourselves that are not necessarily from anyone besides culture. Click To Tweet
Lanny Hunter, episode 117. You can check it out.
With that, I feel I had a lot of perspectives, probably jaded perspective of what weddings were like. I saw people I loved and my friends being stressed out about their hair or you name it on their wedding day. I always thought that’s such a silly thing. I want to wake up on that day and know that I’m marrying the person God created for me. That’s all I want to think about. I don’t want to think about the color of anything. It seemed trivial. I know I brought a lot of that perspective to us and our wedding. I experience anxiety sometimes and with that I don’t like being in front of people and it’s not comfortable for me. The production and being up there and saying all these words that seem very intimate, which they are. I would tell them to anyone, the way I feel about you and what I know to be true from the divine, it seemed as stressful. We came to landed on, “Could an elopement be helpful, or what would be helpful with navigating this?” We do want to mark it. It is important and special.
It was nice because, at that point, we only had three months-ish to plan and set an elopement.
We landed in March to cut down on the distance.
That was an ongoing discussion because there are two separate lives trying to become one. That’s impossible when you live several states away, hundreds of miles away. That becomes increasingly hard the closer you get in relation to another person. The more you get to know someone, the more committed you are to someone, the more you’re trying to join lives with someone, the harder that’s going to be a distance. We felt that pressure internally. It was a constant point of discussion for us of what timing is best. With moving everything from my end and trying to close things was, a big heart of mine wanting to close things well in LA and that season that God gave me. We worked on that being a good time.
With planning, there were certain things about the wedding itself, like a wedding ceremony that I thought would be important to me. Things like having a pastor there, wearing a white dress and a nice suit or whatever it may be or having a good photo of that time to remember. There are things that in my mind, they did seem important at the time. Having our core family there to celebrate with us, that was mainly it coming into it. I was appreciative of the conversations we were able to have because I realized how much my value in those were still driven by the culture. It’s not saying those things don’t have value. They do. It’s saying that the assumed value for them was more from God than from culture. It’s situational in that.
We’ve both been to weddings that are so God-honoring, beautiful and sweet celebrations. Ours was that too. It is different for different people. There’s no shame in whichever path.
What we ended up planning on was a quasi-adventure elopement, which is trendy right now as we came to found out. We’re planning on things and we found out more and more that this adventure elopement thing was trendy and more of the norm, which is cool. With the nature of COVID, and none of us could have planned for that, we ended up coming to two weeks before our planned elopement.
With the elopement, we were planning on just us and our nuclear families, so mom, dad, and siblings.
We’re planning on having a photographer and we decided that’d be fun. We wanted to keep it light, ease, flexible, fluid.
We had some staples. These are things we want pictures of. These are things we want to say, etc. Those can happen at anytime, any order.
We wanted to keep it simple, easy, light, fun, and keeping the main things, the main things. That was the priority. A few weeks before is when COVID came onto the scene. You were in California helping me get things backed up and getting ready to move. My parents flew out to help me load the U-Haul and us load the U-Haul and drive to Denver. In the middle of that is when each day the compounding effects of COVID began to be felt. By the time we ended up leaving, I get a phone call from Sandra. She leaves me a voicemail saying, “This is Sandra from Denver County and Clerk Office. I’m calling to let you know we’ve canceled your appointment due to COVID. We’re not sure when we’re going to reopen.” That was the appointment to pick up our marriage license, which is hilarious. We had applied online. We were to pick it up in person when we got there and lo and behold, they were shut down.
You can’t get your license indefinitely.
We had conversations with a photographer and decided it probably wasn’t best for them to come. We have our private dinner calls and they can’t get supplies for food. We have all these things changed. A few days later, we’re looking at other Airbnb options because everything’s shut down. With that being said, we ended up pivoting. We picked an Airbnb place, a cabin, a little bit closer than all of our two families can go to. Your brother can’t make it and my sister can’t make it but we decided to go. We spend three days up in the hills.
On March 19th, we made a covenant before God. We committed our lives to each other and got married. It was never how we would have planned it, but it’s exactly the way God wanted it. It was cool to experience the purest form we could have experienced what God wanted it to be for us especially. That was simply us. The setting was beautiful because it was 2.5 feet of fresh snow in the mountains, the lightest, fluffiest that you could imagine. We were surrounded by this white canopy with just us and your sister videoing it on the iPhone. Us and God and that were as stripped down as it possibly could be.
We ended up not wearing any of our garbs. After talking that day, we were in the hot tub and looked at each other. I don’t know who asked it, but probably both of us were thinking, “What are we waiting for?” We wrote our vows right after that. We got out of the hot tub and wrote our vows. We told our parents. Our parents were like, “It’s happening right now.” It was sweet. We both have talked about after having time and space away from that moment how much peace we both felt. I will say, and I’m sure you are, Thane, it was still very scary. It’s a huge thing to commit your life to someone, but I’ve been resting in the peace that was there. At the moment, I felt the Lord carrying us through the moment. I’ve been resting in what is faith without uncertainty. If we were sure, there would be no reason for faith.
It was rawer too because it wasn’t as stressed up. It doesn’t have all the commotion that goes into a wedding day to distract some of that raw uncertainty, fear of a commitment, and a covenant between you and another person, God, and promises that you’re going to fail at some point in your lives. Knowing that there’s grace for that, for each other in that, and that was part of our vows too is patiently not perfectly. I thank the good Lord for that goodness. Going through that, one of the biggest things that we wanted to encourage people with is that you do not have to do anything that you don’t want to do.
We didn’t ever would have planned it this way, but I’m so glad it happened that way. It was what was perfect for us. If you’re reading this and maybe you’re going through preparations for marriage or one day, you want to be married and aren’t married yet, it’s something to think about. What would make this the best celebration between us and God and committing our lives to each other? If we don’t think about it, we fall into the default lane, which again isn’t saying that’s a bad lane to be in. It’s saying that’s the default. You’re not consciously choosing it.
That includes a lot of shoulds, “I should do this. This is how this is done. I have to have these many showers,” or whatever it is. I feel we put these pressures on ourselves that aren’t necessarily from any one besides culture. We could be feeling it from moms or aunts or whoever those pressures are coming from. I feel ultimately those are culture-influenced pressures.
The family pressures are real. With those, it’s a gray. Sometimes you do want to do things to help your family celebrate with you. That’s always an interesting scenario. We had supportive families. It’s such a blessing. I don’t take that for granted at all. That was huge. At the end of the day, it is between you and God. A lot of times we think all of these things are important like having a pastor there is so important. At the end of the day, that’s a sweet thing to have. The interesting thing is in Colorado you don’t have to have. There are several states where you can see someone online. There is no needed for an ordained minister, which is part of the reason behind that.
With our story, we catered it to us. We didn’t have a mutual pastor that knew us both and was pouring into our lives/seen into our lives. We adjusted and met with different couples for premarital counseling. I feel that was as pastoral as having a pastor there on the day.
We had six couples that we got to talk to for the months leading up to it. We had multiple conversations with them, which was a sweet way to do it too. I was grateful for you, Ev, the way that you approached and saw it, helped me see it from a different lens. That made our experience that much richer, which was sweet. Is there anything else you’d want to say on that?
The last thing I will say is there’s a way through anything. That applies to anything in life, but if you experience anxiety or if you are even, “I don’t want to do this,” whatever it is, there’s a way through. What was core to us with this is coming back to what matters here for us. What are we even doing? Number one, we’re committing the rest of our entire lives to one another before God in a covenant. That’s all we’re doing. What do we want with that? What was helpful in the process is to strip away all of the frills and norms, etc. and say what is the essence of what we’re doing. Add in what is helpful to you, I would say there’s a way through anything. You can make it your own.
I love the idea of essence. That’s something I’ve been hearing and reading a lot. For some reason, it’s been a theme. Essence is such a great way for us to refine our thought process on anything we’re experiencing and going through. Many things are on top of the essence of whatever it is that it becomes clouded or compliment. I was talking about golf in this other interview I was doing. Golf is a great example of that. The essence of golf is simply getting the ball in the hole as few strokes as possible. It doesn’t matter how it looks like. The more you play golf, the more you think about, “I want my swing to look and feel perfect. I want the shot to look beautiful. I want to do exactly what I want to do.”No one will have the same opinion as you because their journey isn't your own. Click To Tweet
None of that matters. All that matters is getting the ball in the hole, that’s the essence. We get so confused. We complicate things by adding to the essence. Essence is super important. You get to the essence by saying what it isn’t first usually. It’s something that an anti-fragile. He talks a lot about the way you get to something is by first saying what it’s not. It’s a lot easier to say what it’s not before you get to the essence of what it is. You can add other things that are fun on top. That’s a beautiful word.
In the midst of this all, we’re going through probably the biggest change in our entire lives, going from 1 to 2 becoming one, 2/1, the new, new. With that is so much change in merging our lives, me moving from LA to Denver, us figuring out what it looks like. On top of this, you have COVID, which has been a pandemic, rightly stated, and the tragedy that has been causing us all to experience change on a daily basis. What has your experience been in light of all that change over the last several months? Factoring in all the travel, the preparations, the elopement, the marriage, honeymoon, now back in Denver. What have you learned from the experience of this massive effect of change in your life and our lives?
Leading up to our marriage or whatever you want to call it, I was experiencing stress and anxiety at a normal level as I’m sure you were too of, “I’m flying across the country. We’re packing up all of Thane’s things.” Moving in was becoming real and tangible. It was so fun and beautiful too but stressful. We’re coming up to our two-week mark and COVID starts to happen. I hate to even admit this but naively, I was like, “This is affecting us, but not really.” I didn’t know the gravity of it. We went to this amazing little chalet in North Carolina for our honeymoon. We’re planning to explore Asheville, Hendersonville, and Brevard, this cool, little town we’ve found. It started to become more real there when state parks were closing. We could no longer hike and we couldn’t go out to eat.
That had already been in effect, the not going out to eat, but everything is closed, it started to hit home more for me. I’m still on cloud nine. I mean we’re married. We’re cooking and enjoying one another. We were a little bubbled, which we were because we were in a cabin in the woods on 84 acres and that’s where we were for ten days. Now being back in Denver, I feel it’s setting in more and being able to see what life is like here. Talking with businesses on our street about what their plans are for reopening or maybe not reopening. Even us navigating work, what that looks like, and being confined to 477 square feet, we get creative. In 477 square feet, we are living on top of things. I feel COVID is now becoming real to me.
The thing that we’ve experienced that you’re getting at to subconsciously is a reality that we’ve been under so much change in our own lives. All the changes that have come with COVID haven’t felt the weight of gravity that has affected others on a personal level. I can speak for myself, when you are in a season of change, more change feels like that season of change. It hasn’t felt very drastic or life-altering for me. I haven’t experienced as much of the altering because of how much change we’ve been going through regardless of COVID. That’s been interesting. What showed me even personally is that we are such creatures of comfort, habit, and consistency and those are not bad things. I love David Gibson, who wrote a book, Living Life Backwards.
He had a quote about God has patterned the world of rhythm. It’s a balance between change and consistency. We’re on the seesaw between change and consistency throughout our lives. That’s the rhythm that God has patterned our world with and we are capable of flourishing in both. The important part is that we should be going between the two, not staying on one side because we need both change and consistency. This season of more change has helped me see that when you experience more change, you’re more adaptable to even further change. It’s made me less scared when probably I’d be more fearful if it wasn’t for all the change that we had gone through before. With that being said, it’s still very surreal not only with COVID but also being married. What else has change taught you or what else has God grown us through in this time through it all?
I’d say it’s been sweet to be stripped of control. We have no control. That’s been a sweet learning process. I would say, too, that it’s been fun to come back to an established rhythm together, whether that be a morning meditation, morning movement. Being able to rest, read, and be present is a practice for me. I finished as The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer. The essence of that book is what it means to be present and why are we so hurried? It was sweet timing with this. We’re being forced to slow down. It’s a sweet time to reevaluate. With that, it’s been fun to implement practices of slowing and being present.
Why are we in a hurry? I don’t want to be 29 yet. I want to live 28 fully and show up to my days as a 28-year-old. Something else that’s been helpful is one of my friends and mentors in college, Polly, I always talked about an audience of one and that’s been restful for me of knowing I wake up and I show up for my audience of one and the divine. The rest follows. That’s my only agenda is to honor Him in what I do. Those have been sweet reminders and practices we’ve been trying to implement.
I would add too that knowing our personalities, we’re both pretty hard-charging individuals. For me as a three to bring me any agreement of this, I’m driven so much by accomplishment or achieving things or getting to the next task or thing on the checklist. This season is so personal and intentional by God for me to value us, be able to focus on us, this time together and the foundation of our lives together. I would have probably had a much harder time doing if it weren’t for the limitations imposed by the season. For that, I’m incredibly grateful. That’s where God is so personal. Each part of our lives is so intentional by design that if we pause and reflect, a great question is, what ways is God personally using this in my own life to grow me and Him, grow my character, my identity, my giftings, my calling, my creativity? These seasons are such a blessing if only we would use them and not waste them. What personally is God teaching through this time for me? That can be a powerful question.
Were there any let downs or disappointments from all this time that turned into maybe benefits of sweet surprises from this season? One that you’ve mentioned is to get it started would be the whole not being able to eat out, which in one sense is a let-down. You can’t be treated and celebrate. It’s a sweet surprise and benefit because we’ve gotten to test out new recipes, try a lot of cooking at home, which is a sweet time together of having fun, dancing, listening to good music, some good wine. It’s also saved money, which is another cool benefit of it.
Selfishly, that’s where my mind went first. It was like, “I want to go out to eat. I want to explore. I want to foster the community here together. I want to find our church home here. Maybe that’s the church I’ve been going to.” All of these things that being single and now we’re married, I want to do well. As your wife, I want to support and love you well. I know as a three we like to get things done. I’m not a three for the record. I’m one. With that, that’s been hard. Not to Enneagram again, but it’s a helpful tool. The one has a loud inner critic. I want to be a good wife. I can’t foster community when we’re stuck inside. We can reach out to friends and FaceTime with friends, but the real authentic, let’s make dinner for these guys, it’s to come. Those are sweet things to look forward to, seeing family and celebrating with family. All of that is to come. I am excited for what’s to come. We get to make dinner together and I love doing that with you. We get to have sweet conversations and time together. I love those things.
Fostering community, you want to speak to what we’ve got to do?
We live in a sixteen-unit building, which we have 477 square feet of. We made cookies for one of our neighbors down the way. I didn’t know their name. All we knew was it was a father and a daughter living in the studio unit, which is even smaller than this.
We ran into him when we were coming into our complex, we forgot their names. You knew where they lived. We were thinking, “With it being Easter, it’d be sweet to make some cookies or something for them.” That was your idea.
Thane likes to do this thing where he’ll say, “It’s interesting how testy we get when we’re deprived of food or whatever.” I know he’s talking to me. He likes to throw in the, “It’s interesting how we.” We fasted on Easter. We made cookies and brought some down. They weren’t home so we left them. They came by and we’re so joy-filled. It was a divine moment. It was moving.
There are weird symmetries that you can call divine synchronicities. He was in LA for ten years. He grew up in Kansas City like Ev. It’s cool. It’s funny, we think that to make a difference or make an impact, it has to be some big flashy, extraordinary thing that will take forever to muster up the courage, confidence, willpower or resources to do. When it’s as simple as a couple of bucks and 30 minutes for cookies. Even then like, “Should we do this? We don’t know anybody there.” There are doubts. There are questions, “Is this weird if we just put a note?”
“Is it safe with COVID?” That was a question. His little girl is eleven. He shared with us that she had been anticipating a package from her grandpa, his dad. She was so bummed that she didn’t get it on Easter. They came back and the cookies were there. It was God’s timing, following an inkling from the Lord and then what he does with it is like a tiny amount of faithfulness and what comes from that.
All the reason more to do something small. I hope that’s as encouraging to you as it was to us and challenging to you as it was to us. We need to be thinking about, how can we use this time where we’re at now, this isolation or social distancing to get to know our neighbors or get to know the people we walk across the street from, whatever it maybe? We all can play a part in that of being more human, which is what it speaks to, the essence of it. It’s attainable by all of us, which is sweet. My love, this has been fun. This has been a fun first installment. There are many more to come. I want to end with two questions. First one, if you could teach a class for a semester, what age would you teach and what would you teach on and why?
I can pull on my experience of coaching and my favorite age to coach was ten-year-old, fourth, or fifth grade. They’re still so innocent, sweet, eager, and watching your every move. I loved math. Just because I loved it doesn’t mean I’d want to teach it. Biology would be fun, science at that level. How crazy the bewilderment would be at that age and like, “What? Are you kidding? We were one cell and two cells, then what?”
The question we ask every guest on the show if you could send a morning text reminder to every Up And Comer out there, what short message would you say and why? It’s a daily reminder they get on their phone every morning from Evan Ryan Ringler.
The first thing that popped in my head was, “What up fam?” We were in the South for a honeymoon. We saw many of those little church billboards things with black letters. There are many good ones like, “Clean hands won’t save you if you have a dirty heart.” It would be, “Begin Again.” I learned that phrase. We have shortcomings every single day, every single moment maybe. Something that’s been encouraging is begun again. That’s the rhythm of all of our lives is to begin again each day in each moment if necessary.
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About Evan Ryan Ringler
Evan Ryan Ringler is my wife. (Woot Woot!) She is one of the most thoughtful, caring, and intentional individuals I have ever met in my life, which is why I had to wife her up! In all seriousness, she is a powerhouse of a woman that I can’t wait for you all to get to know better. She grew up in Overland Park, KS, and quickly gravitated to her natural athleticism, centering in on the sport of soccer.
She competed for four years at the University of Arkansas on the soccer team before graduating with a degree in International Relations. After graduating she spent time at Garmin and Children’s Mercy before deciding to move to Denver for a new adventure in the Rockies. After almost two years as the Rocky Mountain Regional Manager for Life Equals, she decided to venture into her own pursuits as a consultant, pouring time into a few other passion projects she has as well.
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