In this episode, Adam and Thane embark upon a lively discourse, discussing the intricacies of idealism. While the Millennial generation is characterized as idealists, it often isn’t a helpful mindset to have. Together, they help to highlight the difference between idealism and entitlement, and aim to persuade you of the importance in maintaining and pursuing ideals throughout your life.

At the end of the day, isn’t that what being an Up & Comer is all about?


“Truth is found in clarity, and so often we are unclear about things.”  – Adam Setser

“People mistake idealism for entitlement.”  – Adam Setser

“There’s just a constant tension between our youthfulness wanting to be idealistic, but then our adultness saying that’s just not how the world works.”  – Adam Setser

“Without the idealistic pursuit, then the world never changes in a positive way.”  – Thane Ringler

“The evolution of humanity is a good thing.”  – Thane Ringler

“In my life I’m constantly seeking and pursuing things that influence me to be more idealistic in a broad sense.”  – Adam Setser

“You have to be realistic about your abilities, but also idealistic about what God can do through you and in the world.”  – Adam Setser

“Art is what sets our ideals.”  – Adam Setser

“Art is such a picture of life, and that’s the beauty of art – we get to see life in a way that’s not face-to-face.”  – Thane Ringler

“I’m trying to infiltrate my world with the perfect world.”  – Adam Setser

“We have so much history, and we are just burying our head in the sand of American entertainment.”  – Adam Setser

“We think that technology is getting us so far ahead in society, but it really is getting us behind on an individual level in society because we’re losing our resourcefulness.”  – Thane Ringler

“Distrust what the world is telling you.”  – Adam Setser

“Mindlessly consuming always leads to gluttony in some form.”  – Thane Ringler

“It’s going to be a messy ride, and that’s the beauty of it.”  – Thane Ringler

“The Bible is the touchstone – it sets all the standards.”  – Adam Setser

Show Notes

Leo Garcia’s Interview
Geoff Bishop’s Interview
Conspiracy – Ryan Holiday
The Greatest Showman
Amusing Ourselves To Death – Neil Postman

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10:30 – iTunes Review
12:00 – Fun Facts
15:00 – Idealism
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